Nice win for Ohlendorf. He took advantage of having never been seen by Cubs batters and the fact they are down and out mentally right now and kept the ball down, all of which helped him to cruise. His stuff wasn’t that good in my book mainly because of the number of mistake pitches up in the zone, but Cubs batters had very little patience at the plate and were swinging wildly at everything and anything he threw. Funny thing, the Cubs came into Saturday night’s game with a .670 OPS last seven with only Soriano hitting well, but Ohlendorf plunked him second time up. Plus, if the Cubs had not run themselves into outs the last two nights, I wonder how many runs they might have scored so far?
We are starting to witness why I didn’t want to see McCutchen brought up. I mentioned earlier this year in my sleepers and foolers, and I mentioned it again when he was promoted, he has a hole the size of the grand canyon in his swing and now the league has started to adjust to it. The Braves found it on June 8th late in the game and they held him 2-13 for the rest of the series, and I believe that is the video other clubs are looking at. In his last 31 AB’s he’s gone 5-31 (.161) with a putrid .513 OPS and just one extra base hit and what makes that even more concerning is the fact all those AB’s have been at spacious PNC. And it’s not like he’s hitting the ball well and they aren’t falling in, he’s simply not getting wood for the most part and now looks to be starting to guess too much.
Considering Huntington’s immediate plan is to continue to increase Sanchez’s value, I doubt we’ll see Cutch moved from the leadoff spot, but he should be. Maybe 7th in front of Wilson while Long works on his ability to recognize and then hit offspeed stuff away. Since we know that won’t happen, maybe sit him Thursday before he heads off to Miami where family will be watching because he has a very hard road trip coming up to have to adjust to. Fortunately three of the games are against younger Marlins pitchers who probably don’t watch too much film, and another three against tougher Phillies pitching seemingly incapable of winning in their home park. Houston will not be fun for him.
And it looks like Huntington tipped his hand on how left field defense will play out in the immediate short-term. It seems Moss will get most starts with Salazar getting the balance. I assume Milledge is destined for Indy until he is pronounced 100% (after the break?). Since we’ll be playing in Florida, Houston, and Philly parks until the break, Moss should be ok for the most part since all those left fields are about 14% smaller than PNC’s. Then after the break I’m guessing Milledge will take over in right.
It’s an ugly outfield defensive scheme which relies too much on fly ball pitching, so don’t be too surprised if you see more yard balls given up in their attempt to difuse the lack of fielding ability behind the pitchers.
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I was speaking with someone familiar with our player development system tonight who brought up a perspective on the Morgan trade I hadn’t considered. Neal Huntington and Frank Coonelly have released, traded away, or demoted 40-man roster players who had developed makeup issues, they have released or traded away prospects who couldn’t/didn’t conform, and they have prided themselves in stocking plus-makeup prospects to no end. In other words, they have refused to deal with anyone who doesn’t buy in. End of story, see you later.
So if the Gorzelanny vs Kerrigan issue represented tote bag size baggage, and Snell represents a duffel bag size problem, then Milledge represents a five-piece Samsonite set on steroids. Think about it – if Snell and his 100+ starts was run out of town for his whimpering, how the hell does Milledge even make it to Pittsburgh, much less stay there?
He was right, the deal doesn’t make any sense in that regard. So he wonders, is Milledge going to be turned around and packaged off as an throw-in here shortly? He thinks so and I think he has a point, although I wonder how much of a PR hit the Pirates will take if they do that now?
As for Hanrahan, I’m told by several sources the Pirates better run an MRI on him because they will be shocked if his labrum looks any better than what they passed up with Scheppers. If Huntington is getting calls for him, then he better not hesitate to make a deal.
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Did we really pay $1.1M for 106 at bats and 11 rbis from Eric Hinske and two minor league fillers in Casey Erickson and Eric Fryer ???!!?? Good gosh, I had no idea we paid $400k to the Yankees in that deal. Did we get screwed or what? Oh wait, Nutting actually pocketed $400k since Hinske was due $1.5M. Now I get it.
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So, Alvarez was sidelined with tendinitis in his knee after a little collision? Hmm.. remember when he didn’t sign last year until well past the deadline and I kept wondering if he had an injury which he might be trying to cover up with the drawn out negotiations? That knee couldn’t have been in too good of shape to bark so easily so I wonder, is it possible he hasn’t been 100% since day 1? Maybe that’s why he reported to ST overweight - so he had an excuse to fall back on?
Sure, all of this is way out there but things just aren’t adding up with Alvarez.
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FWIW, David Pinto at Baseball Musings questions the Pirates making the Morgan trade; Dave Cameron at Fan Graphs/Wall Street Journal/USS Mariner questions us in the Morgan deal; Dan Szymborski at Baseball Think Factory wonders if Pittsburgh is the right stopping ground for Milledge much like my source above; Rob Neyer questions the deal on makeup issues as well; even RJ Anderson over at Beyond the Boxscore says what Neyer purports to say, that Morgan is already better than Milledge but he likes the deal because of Hanrahan; and as you might expect, John Perrotto (who is paid indirectly by Robert Nutting) is pleasantly surprised by the talent the Pirates acquired.
Those are some pretty talented baseball bloggers and writers talking, so I’m not the only one in the ‘this wasn’t exactly a smart trade’ camp. Bottom line appears to be for all of us, if Milledge pans out (or is ultimately dealt for something better) and Hanrahan’s shoulder remains attached, then the Bucs win. Until that happens, the Bucs lose. And let’s not lose focus on cost – is Bob Nutting going to pay Milledge the equivalent of about $14M over the next three years for a .261 BA, .726 OPS corner who is stuck playing right field carrying more baggage than a JetBlue flight has in its holds these days?
And let us also not forget that, once again, Pittsburgh Pirates players came out in the national media crying foul over this recent trade. Considering we are still trying to sign draft picks and still working to get potential Latin signees under wrap, that’s not a good sign. Throw in yet another player agent coming out in defense of his client (Joe Sroba in defense of Snell), and folks, we have the makings of a daytime soap opera going on around this club.
We HAVE to stabilize things.
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The Pirates had their first winning June since 1996. That’s a major plus but not unexpected considering the number of series we had against some unexpected poor teams this month. Pitching has been excellent, as has defense.
So let’s see where we are.

Historically we were expected to be at 31-48 through June but we are actually 36-41, or +5 wins with two games to be made up. That puts us on a 72 win season pace based on historical expectations.
But based on our current winning percentage, we’re on pace to win about 75 games which is about where I thought we would end up. Huntington mentioned the other day that the schedule gets harder from here on out but I disagree with him some.. I think it gets easier overall.


























Jake, Do you think that McCutchen is valued enough at this early stage of his Pirate career to be consulted on this trade for his fellow Floridaian, Lastings Milledge? I know that this happens in other sports with mega-stars, I just don’t know if it works in baseball and with a player as young as Cutch.
Also, sometime I would love to have you explain the big difference in playing different OF positions. The way you talk, Milledge isn’t a candidate to play LF. When you have time, I would love to hear why.
Thanks!
The Nats. just proved they are the worst run teem in baseball . And we just proved it .
So the two reasons the people are questioning the deal for the Pirates are 1. Milledge’s make up and 2. Morgan has such a great UZR. I’ll give you the Milledge make up issue. Its a big one, but this is still such a low risk, higher reward type move. These are the moves we have been asking for instead of the safe moves.
And please don’t point us to places where people are using Morgan’s UZR to question this trade after you trashed the guy all year for being overrated defensively.
Wasn’t Fryer the South Atlantic league batting champion? I think we was a top 10 round choice a few years ago. No consoliation.
I don’t understand the Morgan trade at all. He was still learning no doubt. He was hitting .277. Not like he was hitting .200. What was he 28 or so and a positve influence around the team. I think we talked about on this board how the offense needs an igniter. Losing his speed for a bunch of maybe’s is a gamble by Huntington that could come back to bite the Buc’s once again. On top of this Millidge is a below average fielder who does not have a real strong arm which could impact how he can help us. A wish I could follow their plan. Does not make sense to me.
Unless your stacked at 3rd, 1st, and right field with 30 homer type guys Nyjer is is wasted in left field. He just doesn’t project there, plain and simple the way this team is shaping up nyjer had no where to play. If we didn’t have Cutch you probably would see morgan as our everyday centerfielder but the reality is we needed more offensive output from left field. Myabe millege is it maybe not but I applaud the sell high theory here, love the high risk potential and having the guts to make these trades.
Like jake, I have never been a fan of the Nuttings. However I was talking with a big lawyer friend of mine, who happens to be a baseball fanatic as well. He was telling me that he had plenty of experience dealing with the nuttings in different business ventures , here and back in wv in the town there from. He told me that “everything they touch turns to gold”. He also said they have a big chip on there shoulder, are extremly competitive and he believes they want to win. If its true, thats nice to hear but only time will tell.
i love the heat the media is giving the nuttings “front page espn”. Maybe this will make them sign Sano.
Still doesn’t tell me much. Make up issues. Morgan was not worth a starting pitcher either. He’s 29 and a marginal player. Still seems like a low risk, high reward type move.
yes, he would be a great RF for PNC
The Rockies had interest in Joel Hanrahan before he was dealt to the Pirates
made hes a flip canidate. maybe add grabow
If you take out the media circus factor and obvious PR hit that your team was sure to take, I doubt there is a GM out there who wouldn’t sign Barry Bonds from a pure baseball decision. Milledge is not Bonds talent wise, but not nearly the problem Bonds would be with the clubhouse dynamic either.
does this deal set up a spot for doumit in RF when he gets back?
Nice to see Alvarez and Lincoln in the Futures Game
Brian – to the best of my knowledge, Cutch and Lastings don’t know each other that good for anyone to ask him. Tony, lastings’ dad, is a regular feature around Pirate City and quite a few down there know him, but I wouldn’t say somebody like Houke really has any ‘inside’ on the young man’s true makeup.
As for playing different OF positions, each park has a different size footprint and balls off the bat do different things because of the environment. What I said was Milledge is a poor candidate to play LF at PNC and that is mainly because the footprint in left is one of the largest in the game. He has the speed for the position but his route recognition makes Nyjer Morgan playing center look like Willie Mays, if you get my drift. Simply put, he freezes on balls hit to him, he’s slow to recognize where to go, and then when he starts running he runs incorrect routes. Not all the time, but most. Huntington will try to minimize that utilizing him in right at PNC with Moss in left, be my guess.
> So the two reasons the people are questioning the deal for the Pirates are
I think it’s more than that Dan. Read this thread and then get back to me. http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/30/quote-mlbcoms-seth-everett-on-milledge/
> He told me that “everything they touch turns to gold”
hmm.. I suspect anything they want to turn to gold might indeed do that, but I haven’t seen one move that makes me believe the Nuttings view of their ownership rights in Pittsburgh are anything except black ink for them oriented.
I guess signing Barry Bonds would be a low risk, high reward type move too, but would you do that?