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Analyzing the Pittsburgh Pirates blueprint

Nearly every day I get an email that starts something like this: “Where are we going?”  I used to answer those with a simple response - we’re rebuilding and it’s going to take time.  But then I would typically get a reply saying something likeWhat do you mean rebuilding when we aren’t making any trades?” 

Casual fans just don’t get it like hard-core fans do, but recent statements by Neal Huntington, Frank Coonelly, and unquestionably in Larry Corrigan’s radio interview the other day, are now confusing even the hard-core fans.  So let’s take a look at the Pirates blueprint and see if that answers some of your questions.

Why the Pirates won’t admit to rebuilding

Because they aren’t, and they won’t be, at least not in the traditional sense.  I finally realized this the other day when I was communicating with one of the Pirates top brass.  After I hit the send button it dawned on me that my rational for thinking we were in a rebuilding mode was completely off base. 

When we hear the term rebuilding as fans we immediately jump to the conclusion there will be a fire sale.. du, dump everyone you can and reload with youthful prospects.  In previous years with the Pirates and other franchises this was the case.  But as I mentioned the other day, baseball’s landscape has changed dramatically the last 18 months and, while it might have been feasible to have a fire sale in December 2006, it’s nearly impossible to do that now. 

varför?  Because the value of toolsy youth has skyrocketed beyond reasonableness.

Three years ago a club could have wrestled a Carl Crawford type of player away from a team like the Rays by taking on his big contract and giving back one or two toolsy prospects, but that’s nearly impossible any more.  Now an organization has to give up three or four 60+ score (out of 80) prospects PLUS eat the large contract.  The days of the Yankees or Red Sox dealing their better draft picks for guys like Crawford are gone unless an organization virtually wipes out the top level of their farm system.

And it’s only going to get worse.

So if we’re not rebuilding per se, what are we doing?

I suppose that’s best answered by another “R” ord – restructuring.  First we saw this at the upper most levels of the organization when Kevin McClatchy stepped down and Bob Nutting took over.  Nutting took a year to evaluate the system and consult with his peers and then made the decision to restructure the balance of the organization starting with the hiring of Frank Coonelly. 

That was the biggest decision Nutting had and, while I think Coonelly was his man all along, I don’t believe it was for the reasons that garnered our attention as fans.  Sure, Coonelly could help Nutting save a few dollars with his arbitration background, and sure, Nutting would probably benefit financially by having an ex-MLB guy take the reins, but I don’t think that’s the main reason why Coonelly was hired.

Istället, I believe he had a different vision on how to turn this organization around.  We’ll call itFrank’s Planfrom here on out.

Now I can’t speak for Coonelly because I haven’t even discussed this with him, and he’s free to leave us a comment below if he so desires, but we’ve all heard a few different media reports from credible sources that Huntington and Coonelly appear to be heading in different directions at times.  I believe professional tension exists between the two parties but I don’t believe it’s anything to write home to mom about, nor do I think there is any infighting between them.

Istället, Neal Huntington wants to command the restructuring as any GM would but Frank Coonelly just isn’t willing to let go of those reinsthus the difference of opinion that sometimes is played out in the press.  It’s not that Huntington and Coonelly are on different pages, it’s that Huntington wants traditional GM power and he doesn’t quite have it yet.

That’s also part of Frank’s Plan.

Traditional GM’s handle roster affairs and only go to the President or ownership for financial approvals.  True, when a franchise player like a Jason Bay is possibly going to be dealt, that’s different.  But day-to-day roster management is generally always handled exclusively by the GM without interference from the President or ownership except, as I said, for financial approval.  (I hear some of the front office types across baseball laughing at that last comment because there are a lot of owners who meddle.. have faithkeep reading.)

But in Pittsburgh, Frank Coonelly has added another layer to Neal Huntington’s ability to manage his rostertrade approval.  Maybe not in every case, but in most.

That’s also part of Frank’s Plan.

So now that the Pirates have taken two years to restructure the organization (Januari 2007 – Januari 2009) in what they ultimately called a culture change, we’re starting to see phase two of Franks Plan take root.

Surfing the waves

I’ve spoken here numerous times over the years about Jonah Keri’s fabulous article at Baseball Prospectus in 2002 calledThe Success Cycle.”   There Keri outlined exactly where Dave Littlefield’s plan differed from Cam Bonifay’s and why Littlefield appeared to be heading in the wrong direction in his.

To what extent Littlefield was his own problem over all those years isn’t at issue here.  But notice how Frank’s Plan has so far paralleled Littlefield’s plandealing a couple of vets for some youth, locking up fan appealing players to longer term deals, and picking up a few pieces of worthy fruit here and there to help the current team. 

But there’s one notable difference in Frank’s Plan than from either Bonifay’s or Littlefield’s.. holes are being filled and tradable youth and veterans are staying put.

It appears Frank’s Plan is to let the current wave of players - Wilson, Sanchez, Doumit, McLouth, and Adam LaRocheremain in place regardless of the cost or resulting wins for one benefit Bonifay and Littlefield never seemed to understand or could afford.. full development of the next wave. 

And based on what we’ve heard in the media from trade opportunities Neal Huntington has taken to Coonelly for approval the last two years that were ultimately shot down (Wilson times two, Bay to Cleveland, Maholm, Snell, Grabow, etc.), it appears Huntington doesn’t understand Frank’s Plan either.   I mean, on the surface it doesn’t make a bit of sense just as Keri alluded toeither you commit to a full rebuild or you ultimately end up with a disaster.

But in reality it’s the first time in two decades anything our front office has done that does make sense.

Breaking down the blueprint on each wave

Frank’s Plan requires that current holes in Pittsburgh be filled first, then the next wave’s holes filled second, and then a third wave developed behind that as we saw by the selection of the risky but talented Bryan Morris in the Bay trade and the drafting of riskier high school products in Robbie Grossman and Quinton Miller.

The first wave can easily be defined as the current core group of Pirates that make up the 25-man roster.   One theory why Wilson wasn’t dealt is because Frank’s Plan won’t allow a hole to go unfilled unless a reasonable youthful replacement is found, especially a critical position like the left side middle infield for the Bucs. 

Huntington couldn’t find one so Wilson remains a Buc.  And no, Frank’s Plan doesn’t allow a utility or below average player (perhaps as projected by the Pirates pro scouts?, although I do know Coonelly can break down players pretty good himself) to assume the duties unless that is the result after a trade is made which ultimately makes this organization better overall.

The second wave includes the balance of the 40-man not on the active roster plus just about anyone in 2A and up.  But more specifically by each position:  a hole at first base possibly filled by either Andy LaRoche or Pedro Alvarez with the other player remaining on the other corner, Shelby Ford at second, perhaps Brian Friday at short (though a bit early to declare him), Jose Tabata in left, Andrew McCutchen in center, perhaps Brandon Moss in right, and maybe Ryan Doumit catching the first couple of years of this wave, although I see a hole at this position myself. 

That wave is scheduled to begin no later than 2011 and will probably also include starting pitchers Tom Gorzelanny and Paul Maholm (signed to five year deals in 2009?), any graduates of the Joe Kerrigan two-year school of pitching (Karstens, Ohlendorf, McCutchen, Lincoln, McSwain, Barthmaier, Beam, and Meek are likely candidates), plus any possible advanced top draft pick in 2009.

Then the third wave will start pushing to shore around 2014 – 2015 hopefully providing the depth needed for a consistent run in the division year-in and year-out. 

Get it?Höger, it’s actually very simple and exactly what Ed Creech/Dave Littlefield and Cam Bonifay/Mickey White were doing all their years but didn’t have the financial luxury to continue playing higher priced dead weight in Pittsburgh so the next wave could continue to develop.

The risks

Mickey White was no fool, and by most standards Ed Creech and his lowly paid foot soldiers didn’t do too bad a job either contrary to public opinion.  Unfortunately, player development failed both men not to mention many of their riskier picks led to too many bad luck flameouts.

We’re still at risk for these types of drafting errors/problems because we have, by most accounts, too many unproven foot soldiers at the area level.  As I was recently told, most clubs like to place area scouts with no less than three years of proven experience under their belts, but we’re not there yet in some important parts of the country. 

Throw in the fact our scouting department took a significant hit several years ago when this organization had a hard time coughing up payroll for their scouts, and to say we lost ground from the associate scout level up from China to the US would be an understatement. 

Frank Coonelly is doing what he can to try and change that sentiment in the industry with  increased cash flow to the department, Neal Huntington is placing more emphasis on the voices in each region as evidenced by the last draft, and even little things like Coonelly passing out water on hot days to advance scouts working at PNC during the year is making a difference.  Trust me, scouts are talking about all this.

But it’s going to take time.. it’s going to take a lot of time.. to alter the mindset of those foot soldiers in this game who are true difference makers we might like to employ by giving life changing money to, because they still won’t come.

As for player development, I covered that in December by basically saying that it’s nice we have weeded out the cultural problems, it’s nice that we have a new blueprint, and it’s nice that Stark is working passionately 24/7/365.  That’s a huge start which will begin to show up more in the third wave than we’ll notice in the second wave. 

But there are still glaring problems in PD. 

For one, we seem to be hiring too many temporary stopgaps like quality field staff being hired on one year deals.  That reduces productivity, reduces cohesiveness within the system, and continues the mentality that Pittsburgh is a place to hang out waiting for a better gig.

och två, Kyle Stark has handed way too much power to his rovers.  If you read my blog you know I’ve touched on this during the last year and Stark is adamant his system’s approach is the best way, but in some folks eyes there’s already been too much damage inflicted both inside and outside the system with the power his rovers are commanding. 

Typically when a rover visits a minor league team in most other organizations they listen to the field staff, do their work with the players and their plans, and then observe.  They don’t take out bullhorns and take over like we’re seeing in our system.  Perhaps this will be toned down some this year with the hiring of some more professional help 2A and up. We’ll have to see.

Slutligen, as we all know it comes down to tools in this game and the Pirates have taken some positive steps forward trying to find that talent outside the draft like the new academy in the Dominican Republic and spending more time outside the US looking at potential talent. 

Ultimately impact talent outside the draft is going to primarily come from trades so it’s up to Neal Huntington and his advisors to find that talent when the opportunity presents itself, and as well as Frank Coonelly’s willingness to let Huntington pull the trigger.  So far Frank’s Plan has been to keep a light touch on the trigger, for better or for worse.

Conclusion

First and foremost don’t ever forget you are watching The Frank Coonelly Show here in Pittsburgh.  Before Frank it was the Kevin McClatchy Show.  From all the sources that I have reached, it appears the Nuttings are not, and never have been, involved in any micromanaging as I have suspected.

Med detta sagt, there are still a lot of holes in our processes as well as in the prospect waves building offshore, as noted above.  While we have patched quite a few of the holes and this ship is back afloat, it’s only just treading water.  As Keri noted, Frank’s Plan is risky in that he’s not selling a full rebuild like Branch Rickey did here in the 50’s, and if we’re at the same position in two years we were two years ago, it’s going to be a lot easier to see.

Mer, 2009 is a defining year for this franchise in many ways.  If the Pirates draw 1.4 million fans or less and/or lose 100 Spel, ownership is going to be put in a precarious position as many needed revenue streams are all but sure to dry up until the next wave hits Pittsburgh.

Ownership knows that better than anyone and that’s why they handed the reins to Frank.  It’s his baby, sink or swim, although this ownership is probably going to be very quick to pull the rug out if the ship starts to sink too much.

Stage three of Frank’s Plan?  .500 baseball riding the surf year-in and year-out.  I’m betting in his heart he wants it in 2011, will settle for 2012, but probably realizes his cycle begins in earnest in 2013.

Will that be too late? And will Frank’s Plan even work at all

Good questions.. tough questions.  On paper it all seems so simple.

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  • Lonnie McCartney said:

    Jake

    If FC would just read this to the fans at Piratefest. Tell them there is a plan. For once be honest with the fans that’s all they want. You have to believe the Pirates were embarrassed by last year, the pitching is going to be better, I’m not saying there’s 20 game winners here as I don’t believe we have a #1 starter in this group. These guys have no where to go but up. Frank, read this letter to the fans.

    Lonnie McCartney
    Beaver,PA.

  • mouse said:

    Great article, Jake. I’ve been trying to decide what the underlying theory is and this really makes sense.

  • PNC317 said:

    Very well written Jake. Lonnie is right, if this is their plan they need to tell the fans so they get aboard.

    Ryan
    Pittsburgh

  • Homer said:

    Jake why won’t the FO come clean then? Like everybody said, good job explaining things.

  • SalemPirate said:

    Very nice article. You’re to be commended for your objectiveness, something I’ve thought you basically didn’t have towards the Pirates.

    But the truth is, this team is not committed to winning. There’s a quote in today’s P-G from the F.O. about not seeking a F.A. starting pitching pitcher. Ben Sheets would be a tremendous pickup for the Pirates. He’s much better than the AAAA types the Bucs will run out, and run through, this season at near minimum wage. He’s young enough to become a fixture and stabalizing force for at least 2 or 3 år. The quote says the Pirates prefer to use the youngsters, rather than signing a FA. It’s all about the money.

    The cycles you talk about don’t matter. årligen, players will opt for free agency. Who are you going to lose? Your best players.

    Keeping Wilson, Sanchez and Adam La around all season is not the Pirates M.O. Bay, Nady & Marte were Pirates 60 games ago and where are they now?

    This is an endless cycle and it’s not about to end. It can’t. At least until the Pirates have a fully stocked system with the greatest farm products in all of baseball. And to do that, the Pirates will go broke. Especially with the tightwads running things. There is no hope till Nutting sells.

    Any teams given goal from the end of one season till the start of the next is to improve their team. Can anyone say what the offseason has bought the ‘09 Pirates? A backup middle infielder is it so far.

    Oh man, what is happening. Am I turning into Sunny? ;)

    btw.Ed Creech was terrible. That whole group was inept.

    Must say this was a really fine article. Keep pumping out outstanding articles like this.

  • JWR said:

    If this is true, then Opie is just another Littlefield pawn for the CEO. I guess that does make some sense though. Very nice read Jake.

  • Timlins shoes said:

    I don’t get it, if prospects cost more shouldn’t trades require fewer, not more?

  • Your 2nd-grade spelling teacher said:

    Great article, and I’m not even a Pirate fan! men, Frank has not been handed thereigns;” it’s thereins,” Jake, Den “reins.”

  • Joe said:

    So will we resign the core players of the second wave once the third wave begins to come in. Guys like Alvarez, McCutchen, and our draft pick from this year.

    Även, who do you want them to draft? A guy like Alex White would be good for our second wave, but a guy like Matt Purke makes more sense long term. He could lead the third wave and give us an ace.

  • JESSEX said:

    Except Jonah Keri was wrong. BP rejected the evidence and hasn’t run anything on it. Keri wasn’t long for BP after that and was fired. So basing anything on that is much more like Bonifay than Coonnellyy.

  • Dave P said:

    On Wilson staying:

    I think the Bucs thoroughly overestimated Wilson’s value when declining the deal (if rumors are accurate) that included Jurrjens (sp?)in 2007. Olyckligtvis, Wilson was hurt in 2008 and had his value slip further. This winter has seen a glut of SS on the market with several still unsigned. The Bucs overplayed their hand and got burned.

    At this point, I don’t see the point in trading Wilson unless he gets hot and the supply of available SS is considerably reduced throughout the season. Wilson is not blocking any prospects and is a better SS than anyone else in the system.

    As far as other action this winter, I think this was an excellent winter to not spend money. It appears possible if not likely that economic conditions will limit MLB revenues for at least the next 2 säsong. With that and the impending arbitration cases about to hit teams like the Phillies, I see some major bargains available to teams with small payroll obligations. I think the White Sox are only the first of teams who will unload payroll and receive little in return.

    - D

  • mike said:

    great read JakeI have personally spoken to FC and NH at long time season ticket holder meetings. It is never spoken out for one to hearbut it’s there in between the lines. These guys have no desire to raise payroll and actually believe the plan as you defined it will work in time.

    they plan on being at .500 baseball in about three years

  • Jake said:

    > Jake why won’t the FO come clean then?

    Haven’t they?

  • Jake said:

    > The cycles you talk about don’t matter

    they do and Pirates fans need to understand them better to understand where we are at and when we should expect to see winning again.

    > Keeping Wilson, Sanchez and Adam La around all season is not the Pirates M.O. Bay, Nady & Marte were Pirates 60 games ago and where are they now?

    Perhaps you missed the point. ANY player would be dealt under Frank’s Plan for an appropriate return which reflects the high value of youth today. But if no deal is made available, they are willing to hold on to the players which previous regimes wouldn’t do (dvs: Ramirez is a great example).

    > Any teams given goal from the end of one season till the start of the next is to improve their team. Can anyone say what the offseason has bought the ‘09 Pirates?

    The main club? Not much. But the franchise, mycket.

    > btw….Ed Creech was terrible. That whole group was inept

    we’ll have to agree to disagree. Ed Creech is not Dave Littlefield and Ed had some of the lowest paid scouts in the biz helping him during part of his run. I think he did a great job considering who he could get to work here, what they were being paid, and as little a voiceand fundingas Dave Littlefield and Kevin McClatchy gave him. But believe me, I see your point.

  • Jake said:

    > I don’t get it, if prospects cost more shouldn’t trades require fewer, not more?

    Säker, if both sides of the game felt the same way about that value. But they don’t. The team with the prospects feels each is worth $1 where the team wanting them feel they are worth $0.50, as an example.

  • Jake said:

    LOL – my bad. From 6th grade up I was on the ball field during English class! Thanks, I made the changes.

  • Jake said:

    JESSEX: Jonah was kind enough to reply to this post and your message and that’s below. But I think you might be taking Jonah’s article a bit more serious than I didwhat I took out of the work was the basic plan of waves of talent creating a success cycle and that’s what I wrote about. But your comment is noted and appreciated.

    Here’s Jonah’s email:

    I actually agree with the last commenter that it’s too simplistic to box
    teams into one of three categories the way I did in the article, and that
    teams rarely follow smooth, gradual progressions in the manner outlined in
    my article. I would say that my point about teams not overextending
    themselves on big contracts (especially on less than elite talent) remains a
    reasonable idea. But yeah, that was my first article for BP (my first
    analytical article for anyone, Anywhere, in fact). And in retrospect,
    there’s as much naivete in the article as there is insight.

    And re the Pirates, we won’t know for a while where they’re headed. Because
    teams are much more reluctant to trade elite prospects for rent a vets now
    (the Erik Bedard trade is the unbelievable exception to the rule), Den
    becomes that much more important for bad teams to knock it out of the park
    in the draft. That means paying up for the Wieters types and never ever
    going for signability picks. Because Huntington and his staff are so new,
    too soon to tell what will happenif they truly commit to the draft (som
    well as int’l signings) they’ll have a shot. It’s the only way to build a
    great nucleus.

    Just ask the Rays. I’m spending the next 10 months of my life writing about
    them for a bookwhich could easily be titledChuck LaMar did a pretty
    darn good job after all”.

    Cheers,
    Jonah

  • Jake said:

    Joe – ja, I would expect us to sign the second wave to extended deals after their first year of arb. As for the draft, I’ve only just started putting my thinking cap on because I like to get a handle on the first few weeks of play before I start pointing fingers. There’s some talent at the top this year.

  • Jake said:

    Good stuff D. But you missed the last decade of trading in Pittsburgh.. we have routinely sent players out the door in exchange for a can of corn to avoid higher payroll. And Jack Wilson could have easily been added to that list this year with the Tigers interest. But it didn’t happen.. not because there wasn’t interest or too many shortstops on the market, but because we backed up.

    Why we backed up is anyone’s guess but I want to ** believe ** it’s because they are willing to let Bixler continue to develop as the middleman until the second waver hits, and deal Wilson in July for a bag of peanuts.